Harry Potter and the Excrucius MacGuffins
Posted by Roberta Lipp on July 29, 2007
I finished the final Harry Potter book on Thursday. (C’mon, you don’t really need a link, do you?)
(I promise you, this entry contains no Deathly Hallows spoilers.)
It’s a big deal for me, as I struggle with reading. I started off well in this one… was having an easier time reading and retaining, but it got rough for me during the middle. My friend Albert has been my Potter co-conspirator since pretty much the beginning… I don’t remember exactly when I joined the bandwagon, (I am pretty sure it was before the third book was released), but my reading them was Al’s idea.
And he reads faster than me, and although he deliberately drags it out for himself in order to better absorb and relish, (I believe he typically reads each chapter twice before moving on) (whereas I am racing to see what happens!), he is still always ahead of me and our discussions are careful until I am finished.
This year, because of school and work responsibilities, he needed to get it all finished last weekend. Pretty much read straight through, finishing up Sunday evening. And then keep his mouth shut and wait for me.
As we remember, I am like… out of work. Lots of time to read. But I walk away from what I’m reading. A lot. So it took me longer, even with all this time to devote, than it needed to.
I really thought I’d finish Wednesday, and then I didn’t, and it was at this point that Albert began acting a bit anxiously about it. So Thursday, I started sending him text message updates, but I was too absorbed now to want to take the time to actually write anything, so I was sending him pictures of my progress.
Things got really tense for awhile (where the hell are Ron and Hermione!?)
And then, oh then, the tears (I’m a cryer)
(that’s a tissue)
And I finally finished. (I’m better!)
This is a great boob shot. Has nothing to do with anything in here, I just thought I’d post it.
Look, I do have some criticism. (Albert will no doubt join in on this conversation via comment, so please check back all week, and of course, join in if you feel compelled.) But I want to say first that she (Rowling) absolutely satisfied. She came through. She pulled it all together, and gave me everything I wanted. It was a ride I am glad I took.
But it was a bit arduous. The ride.
Albert will probably say this better than I can, but I think she bit off more than she could chew. This was quite an ambitious undertaking, with a whole lot more pressure than she could have possible ever imagined.
I just think she gets a couple of things wrong in her writing on the whole. She made me (the reader) work too hard. I was supposed to remember way too many things, and she counted on those things to mean as much to me as they did to her.
Or, in fairness, to her typical reader.
My nephew, Arthur, exemplifies her typical reader. Arthur is 17 years old, the same age as Harry. And he resembles him… more than the kid in the movies does, in my opinion.
(Electronically I only have a recent example of this–it was much more startling when he was younger. Kids would stop him all the time, commenting on the resemblance. )
(Okay, the little neph, Benjamin, has nothing to do with this blog, but he’s so damn cute, why edit him out? And the two of them together… just LOVE.)
Point is, Arth has been on top of it from the beginning. He’s also got some obsessive-compulsive tendencies, so again I say… this kid is the perfect Harry Potter reader. Student. Memorizer of all detail.
And I am not.
I am a tv fan, as many know. I ‘get’ tv; I get its plot devices. When I was very young, maybe 12, I figured out, all by myself, that All My Children, the soap I was devoted to at that time (and for many years before and after) had the job of both satisfying its fan base and yet being accessible… downright enticing… to a new viewer who was unfamiliar with the storylines. And I got that this was one of the basic foundations of television writing.
I am also a person who gets satisfaction out of emotional resolutions more than intellectual ones.
Rowling does not seem to understand the MacGuffin principle.
‘ A device or plot element that catches the viewer’s attention or drives the plot. It is generally something that every character is concerned with.’
The McGuffin is essentially something that the entire story is built around and yet has no real relevance.
Hitchcock understood that there are things that everyone in the movie cares about that you, the viewer, does not care nearly as much about.
J.K., and many of her young and/or detail obsessed readers, cared way to much about a gazillion things and what each one meant and how it impacted everything else. So when the whatchamacallit from chapter 20something of the fifth or so book turned out to be the key, if only properly prepared, to looping their way under the whoseywhats so that you wouldn’t be seen or maybe it’s mortally wounded when you entered into the whereverthefuck,
not only is that supposed to satisfy your Sherlock Holmeslike mind, but there should be a kind of SIGH of relief when it happens. Every. single time it happens. Which is like, constantly.
For me, some of that was kind of cool, but most of it, most of these sort of mini-climaxes were just dulling to me.
I don’t mean to imply that I think that book 7 of this worldwide record breaking series should cater to the new reader. I can’t imagine why any single person in the whole of this universe would ever choose to start with Deathly Hallows, and I’m sure J.K. and her people are with me on this.
However, she expected me to remember a whole lot more details than I did. And these could have been corrected in a few well-placed words.
Like I said, I think she made me work too hard. It has been two full years (you were right, Brad) since the 6th in the series was in my hands. I didn’t know I was supposed to study.
A few examples… (these examples include elements that are reintroduced in book 7. I personally do not consider them spoilers, but step away if you insist on living in a vacuum.)
- I didn’t remember what a thestral was. All I remembered was that it was some kind of cool creature that helped them escape from something or travel somewhere in one of the books. There were a lot of those, from book to book.
- There were all these words of wisdom, from so many sources, in so many books. Mottos, if you will; words to live by. Some lesson learned, or not learned but stored away. Some of those came back, and there were new ones (I open at the close?). It was confusing; so many!
- I couldn’t remember if Bellatrix was a sister or cousin to Sirius, and then I couldn’t remember how Tonks was related. Eventually I got it, but again, I don’t feel like it would have been too pandering if she’d just mentioned.
- The horcruxes. I know I will get shit for this, but I couldn’t quite wrap my head around them. And she never, ever said what they did; not in this book. I remembered there were a bunch of them, and that they were linked to Voldemort personally, and that Harry needed to find them, but I didn’t quite have it right, and she never said it. Not once. In a well over 700 page book, you could say, one time, exactly what it does. It made me feel stupid. And I’m not stupid. I just have loose glue.
- There were a lot more smaller details that I can’t list without researching. ‘Cause, see? Who can keep track of them?
Also, there are a few moments where I think she could have gone a touch deeper (again, my thing) emotionally.
Okay, this one’s a minor spoiler; just not anything pivotal.
There’s a scene where Ron and Harry, together, see and feel Ron’s greatest fears, about always feeling ‘less than’. (For the Buffy fans, he’s Xander…) no special powers, no calling.
It was basically great. I just wanted it to go on a bit longer… I would have liked for him to be told, whether by Harry or someone else, that going through all of the same heroics that Harry does, as the one who does NOT have a destiny, means that in some ways you are even more heroic. Maybe have him hear it from his father, or one of his brothers, or like, in a note from Dumbledore.
I also think she misses an interesting opportunity with the Dementors. When they are around, Harry is described as feeling despair and hopelessness, and it weighs him down, but he continues forward with I must get to __________ (Ron Hermione a horcrux or whatever he must get to next). I think it would have been a lot more interesting if she got inside his despairing and hopeless head… Why are we even doing this? I shouldn’t bother rescuing them/this, that or the other thing because we’re all going to die anyway.
I want to add also that she is not afraid to hurt or kill people. This is a war, she has set it up that way for a long, long time, and people get hurt and get dead. There is an terrible injury early on that shows you this is serious business. (Again I was reminded of Xander… 7 seasons of Buffy, and there in the 7th season, Xander loses an eye. For like, ever. No more eye.)
She also did many lovely things. Brought closure to relationships where you don’t expect it. There were incredibly emotional moments, and as I said, she ultimately brought it all home in a way that was intensely satisfying to me.
Oh, the good times.








chris (buttercup) said
Hey Roberta! De-lurking to chat.
I knew I was going to be lost when the book came out. When the release date was announced I re-read Order of the Phoenix and Half-Blood Prince. Then I got the audio books (which came highly reccomended and didn’t let me down) and listened to 4, 5 & 6. I was ready for 7.
I cried at several points in the book. So many unexpected losses, but you’re right, we were set up to expect it and JKR said there were several major characters that die.
I also loved that even tho Harry is the hero, it’s still very clear that he is only 17 and makes mistakes that an impulsive teen would make.
The one question I have, which didn’t get resolved, was… How can Snape be the Half Blood Prince? Forget for a minute that James Potter is full blood – but when Harry was hoping for a fleeting moment the HBP was his dad, Lupin asks when the book was published and when Harry looks it up, it takes his James out of the running. The book was published way before he would have been in school. The same goes for Snape since he was in school the same time as James & Lily Potter. James, Serius, Lupin, Peter, Lily and Snape were all from familys that were well off and would have been able to purchase new school books. So who’s book is it?
Yeah – it’s a picky point, but I really thought that had something to do with it. It’s the only thing in all the books that bugs me. The untied end.
Otherwise, I was totally happy with the book. I didn’t think she’d be able to tie it all up in one book, but she did and I IMO did it well. I’ll re-read it in a few months because I finished it in two days too. Too much to miss.
And how much does Mrs. Weasley rock?!?! LOVE HER!!!
Oh – and I believe that Bellatrix and Narcissa are Serius’ cousins.
Roberta Lipp said
(Hi Chris!)
Yeah I have no idea. When Al gets here, he may help with that. Also I’ve put the nephew on it… asked him to check this blog and intervene where necessary.
And yes, Bellatrix is most definitely Sirius’ cousin; I just couldn’t remember from the start.
Deborah Lipp said
One that I couldn’t remember at all and was NEVER explained was “I must not tell lies.” That really needed an explanation.
Thank the Gods Arthur was available.
Let’s not forget these books ARE written for children which you and I and Albert are not. They retain these details in ways that we don’t. We want the details to be macguffiny.
Roberta Lipp said
Right, that was another one. And it was also embarrassing when she finally did explain it… it was so huge at the time. But at least she did explain it.
And I know; I fully admit I am not her audience. It is part of the ‘bit off more than she could chew’ thing; she didn’t know these would be the most read books ever; she certainly couldn’t have known that so many adults would be reading them and f-ing blogging about them.
And, as you and I talked about… you very much have to respect that she didn’t just keep introducing new spells and new superpowers each time she needed to get them out of a jam. She prepared them in the first six books, and pretty much used what she had.
Although me and Al keep chuckling… these witches and wizards make fun of muggles, but they can’t freaking email and they don’t have cell phones and the security in the Ministry is just awful.
Just saying.
Roberta Lipp said
PS It might actually be fun to get 4-6 on tape. I had Prisoner of Azkaban on tape (Al, was that yours?) with the loverly Jim Dale (although I understand the English versions are Stephen Fry, who I also love lots. It was a nice experience to listen to it, and I am now interested in all these flipping details, and I keep looking at the books and shaking my head.
Arthur the neph said
Without any DH spoilers:
A thestral is a winged horse that is only visible to people who can remember witnessing someone die. They pull the carriages that take people from the Hogwarts Express into the school at the start of every year. They were used by Harry, Ron, Hermione, Luna, and Neville (there may be a 6th person I’m forgetting, possibly Ginny) to travel to the Ministry of Magic to get to the climax of the fifth book because Voldemort had fooled Harry into thinking that Sirius was being tortured in the Department of Mysteries. Hagrid takes care of them and they live in the Forbidden Forest.
Horcruxes are objects that a wizard stores a part of his soul in. As long as the Horcrux is intact, the wizard will never die, so in order to kill the wizard who entrusted part of his soul to the Horcrux you need to destroy the object, and with it the soul portion, first. In order to break your soul apart so that you can put part of it in a Horcrux you need to commit murder. Voldemort saved the creation of Horcruxes for particularly significant murders.
Cyndi said
I must say i loved the book, but the ending left a couple of things untied, but overall what a great series and I’m sad to see it go. The movie was definatly not as good as the book for the order of the phoenix.
chris (buttercup) said
Jim Dale really was wonderful. When I got my book, I wanted to get the audio book of Deathly Hallows too. But the price is so steep. I’ll wait till it gets freed up at the liberary.
I remember reading an interview with JKR on Mugglenet well before DH came out. She said that Harry already knows everything he needs to know to find the Horcruxes and defeat Voldemort. That’s what sent me to the audio books since I finished my re-read. But I loved that it was all set up, that she had planned it so well.
Remember when HBP came out and you and I sat in my cube all teary trying to figure out a loop hole because Dumbledore just couldn’t be dead? One of the few nice memories from the Hell Hole.
Roberta Lipp said
When I was 14 I wrote Jim Dale my one and only fan letter (he was starring on Broadway in Barnum, and I’d seen him on the Tom Snyder Show–ironic that should come up this week–RIP, Tom).
I was hoping Arth, the neph (thanks for the cameo, dude!) would shed some insight on the half-prince thingie, but I guess he’s got nothing.
And I totally remember that (and remember when I screamed like a Price is Right winner when I found out we had Wicked tickets?)
SPOILER ALERT: I was really convinced he wasn’t dead. I was really wrong.
Deborah Lipp said
That part appeared nowhere in Deathly Hallows. The rest, yes, but not that, and I had absolutely forgotten about it until just now.
Actually, I still don’t remember it, but I believe Arthur and so I must once have known it.
chris (buttercup) said
OT – but you brought up Buffy…
Are you reading Season 8?
Arthur the neph said
Righrighrigh… forgot about that question. Sorry.
Snape is the half-blood prince because his mother’s maiden name was Prince, and Snape was his muggle father’s last name. He played up the pureblood angle to get in with his Death Eater buddies by using the name Prince because it belonged to his mother. The textbook belonged to his mother while she was in school, which is why it was so old.
And even though Snape’s family was well-off, they treated him like dirt and gave him nothing new. It wasn’t a happy family at all, as we can see in DH when SPOILERS IN STRIKETHROUGH
we see Snape wearing his mother’s old clothes, which is humiliating, and Lily asks about the loud fighting and yelling coming from Snape’s house.END SPOILERSSo his parents could have afforded to give him a new textbook, but they mistreated him so badly that they didn’t care to.
Actually, come to think of it, I don’t remember it ever being said that Snape came from a well-off family.
Deborah Lipp said
Chris, Roberta isn’t reading Season 8 but I am.
-A. said
Given that you pretty much invited me to comment on this topic… I feel bad that I have been so busy and pretty much missed the moment. But I thought I’d add the following…
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I was very, very concerned I would not like how she ended the series. I was very, very happy with how it all worked out. It moved me as much as any piece of art has ever. Seriously.
The criticism that you referred to is… for me I have felt that as the series got more serious in subject matter the “children’s story” aspect of the book didn’t work as well. Which made some aspects of the later books not feel comfortable to me. As a result my favorite book has always been the middle one (Goblet of Fire) which would be balanced right between the child & more adult themes.
But overall I try not to think about it too much.
Because it was a fun really fun ride.
Seymour, MSW said
I feel like these comments are as much fun as the blog. It’s the interactive nature of it all, I guess.
Isn’t this a Lily Tomlin principle? That the audience is as fun as the performance?
Which is “soup” and which is art? The book or the readership?
I wonder if JK asks herself that.